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Chuck Finley69

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It's was bait and switch Chuck, meant to irritate Yamma for his pokes at you about US guns, etc., and you know it. Canada and the US have always been very closely aligned (including Canada often basically selling its soul/resources to the US in preference to selling to anyone else) and that probably ain't going to change any time soon.
The USA isn't aligned the way you think with anyone but itself. History shows this over and over that our collective individualism outweighs the desire to get along with everyone. It's entrenched going back to Revolutionary War, the Indians, and whatever else in our history.
 

Chuck Finley69

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Where have I heard that before..... oh yeah you!! You Americans have already moved your industry to China in exchange for the benefit of the few at great harm to your country. Trend setters I guess would best describe it.
Has Canada been any different? Other than maple syrup, what's left of Canadian industry that isn't controlled by PRC or USA now?
 

spARTacus

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The USA isn't aligned the way you think with anyone but itself. History shows this over and over that our collective individualism outweighs the desire to get along with everyone. It's entrenched going back to Revolutionary War, the Indians, and whatever else in our history.
Doesn't really make lots of sense, to think your US revolution and your certain rights focused around its constitutional amendments actually plays as much of a role in defining US greatness and success over the years, as you think it does, and that "individualism" has been the key ingredient. I agree that you believe such, core to some identity focus. You guys might even teach such to yourselves as part of the school system, IDK, kind of like how within Canada they used to try to teach us that Canadian multiculturalism was the greatest thing to be proud of (and don't get me wrong, I've got nothing against multiculturalism and diversity, those things bring lots of benefits, but propaganda is propaganda even when it comes from one's own side). Doesn't really make sense though. It could make sense to those that are direct tight lineage of ancestors from those who were on the continent at time of the 13 colonies. However, the US since it's revolution is made up of so much more than just what those folks back then revolted for, so much immigration since way back then. We've discussed this before. American geography had more to do with what the US grew into than what the US accomplished via most important results from it's revolution, and if there hadn't been a revolution American would have still become an independent superpower.

The US is aligned on motivation and need for alignment way more than you think. Just happens to be that the US has been quite big on the block for quite a while. So, more often than not there is need and focus for other countries to try to align with the US and to align the US, as opposed to the US having to seek out to align with others.
 
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spARTacus

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Has Canada been any different? Other than maple syrup, what's left of Canadian industry that isn't controlled by PRC or USA now?
Canada also sold itself out over the years. Periodically, has also attempted to course correct. There used to be a saying quite a ways back about PETROCAN (formed by liberals under Trudeau senior leadership (when in minority government coalition with the NDP) as basically an economic nationalizational of some of the oil sector), that it was about Pierre Elliott Trudeau Ripping Off Canada. That was of course a political propaganda line. Mulroney's conservative leadership government eventually moved PETROCAN off of where it had been going.
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Canada is still a whole boatload freer than America is all that counts. Right Chucky? Freedom is all you care about remember? Well you are deluded in believing that you are freer than Canadians or Norwegians or Swedes and so on. LMAO
Yea just as the truckers and people who supported them…….moron. The box car awaits you………..
 

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Ph1llip

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Canada also sold itself out over the years. Periodically, has also attempted to course correct. There used to be a saying quite a ways back about PETROCAN (formed by liberals under Trudeau senior leadership (when in minority government coalition with the NDP) as basically an economic nationalizational of some of the oil sector), that it was about Pierre Elliott Trudeau Ripping Off Canada. That was of course a political propaganda line. Mulroney's conservative leadership government eventually moved PETROCAN off of where it had been going.
If we are not careful, our way of life will be overrun by the three great evils: unassimilating immigration (weakens us militarily), climate religion (weakens us economically) and sexual perversion (weakens us socially). Whaddya y'know, the three favorite causes of the progressive (and regressive) left 🤪
 

Chuck Finley69

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Canada is still a whole boatload freer than America is all that counts. Right Chucky? Freedom is all you care about remember? Well you are deluded in believing that you are freer than Canadians or Norwegians or Swedes and so on. LMAO
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Whatever you want to count as freedom is your choice. Americans have always enjoyed our individual freedoms guaranteed with our constitutional rights.

I don't see why you care as it's not your country.
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Proven facts. The Freedom Convoy was supported by ignorant and angry failed people with financial support from dazed and confused ignorant Americans. Just as with your Jan.6th the perpetrators were arrested and have their time to serve, except in your case you still believe that Trump is Gawd.
Spoken like a true mooch……….go back into your basement.
 

spARTacus

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If we are not careful, our way of life will be overrun by the three great evils:

unassimilating immigration (weakens us militarily)
According to Chuck, individualism is a core concept/belief for in the US. Presumably, what Chuck means by individualism and what you mean by unassimilating, means the same?

The US was basically built on the back of immigrants. So individualism for all the immigrants who originally made America great was ok, but not now to make America back great again, or is it only the non immigrants who are allowed to be individualistic?
climate religion (weakens us economically)
So the climate of religions is a threat economically? I wouldn't have thought strong American Christians would have believed that. Maybe just the localized weather of non core Christian religions, is what you were referring to as a threat?
and sexual perversion (weakens us socially).
There seems to be others in here that discuss their sexual perversion habbits. You'll need to address that part of your post to them.
Whaddya y'know, the three favorite causes of the progressive (and regressive) left 🤪
Some kind of political point you were trying to make about left or right?
 
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SteinwayTransitCorp

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According to Chuck, individualism is a core concept/belief for in the US. Presumably, what Chuck means by individualism and what you mean by unassimilating, means the same?

The US was basically built on the back of immigrants. So individualism for all the immigrants who originally made America great was ok, but not now to make America back great again, or is it only the non immigrants who are allowed to be individualistic?

So the climate of religions is a threat economically? I wouldn't have thought strong American Christians would have believed that. Maybe just the localized weather of non core Christian religions, is what you were referring to as a threat?

There seems to be others in here that discuss their sexual perversion habbits. You'll need to address that part of your post to them.

Some kind of political point you were trying to make about left or right?
No one claims or states immigrants should be treated differently. What you are confusing, is illegal immigration versus legal immigration. The other thing most people do not understand who were not born in the United States. Is this, States rights trump the federal government. Since we are a democratic republic, we have the best of both worlds. A democracy with the protection protection of a republic.
 

spARTacus

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No one claims or states immigrants should be treated differently. What you are confusing, is illegal immigration versus legal immigration....
I was commenting on earlier statements made about "unassimilated immigrants", and " individualism". I wasn't at all confused. There was nothing at all earlier stated about legal vs illegal immigrants.
 

spARTacus

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...The other thing most people do not understand who were not born in the United States. Is this, States rights trump the federal government. Since we are a democratic republic, we have the best of both worlds. A democracy with the protection protection of a republic.
No idea what that has to do about what I posted about what Phil posted about what he considers the three evils.
 
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