In China's coal country, full steam ahead with new power plants despite climate pledges

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In China's coal country, full steam ahead with new power plants despite climate pledges​

By Colleen Howe and Ella Cao
November 30, 20232:26 AM ESTUpdated 5 days ago




Cooling tower stands at a thermal power plant in Yulin

Truck passes by a chemical factory near the Jinjie Industrial Park in Shenmu








[1/5]A cooling tower stands at a thermal power plant under Shaanxi Yulin Energy Group in Yulin, Shaanxi province, China November 20, 2023. REUTERS/Ella Cao Acquire Licensing Rights

YULIN, China, Nov 30 (Reuters) - On a flat, dusty patch of land 13 kilometres (8.1 miles) west of Yulin in the heart of China's coal country, construction workers braved sub-freezing temperatures at the site of a planned 700 megawatt (MW) power plant set to open in less than a year.
Surrounded by cranes, the main building at the 3 billion-plus yuan ($419 million) Yushen Yuheng plant is taking shape, part of a spate of new coal-fired power construction in China even as the country pledges to begin reducing coal use during its next five-year plan, beginning in 2026.

China has decommissioned 70.45 gigawatts (GW) of coal-fired plants in the last decade, and is building far more renewable energy capacity than any other country. Analysts say coal use may peak as soon as this year.
But a sudden flurry of approvals of new coal-fired plants in recent years raises doubts about China's commitment to phasing out the fossil fuel, and its key role in the country's energy security plans shows the difficult task that lies ahead for world leaders.

The surge in new coal-fired power stations has provided an economic lifeline for some, including a woman surnamed Li, who owns a fruit shop near the Yushen Yuheng plant. She said she left her hometown of Yangquan in neighbouring Shanxi province after curbs on coal stymied development there, and is betting on growth around the Yushen Yuheng plant.
"Overall my business is good, at least better than when I was in Yangquan," Li told Reuters. "Here you can see white smoke coming out of huge chimneys, which you don't see in my hometown anymore."

Cutting coal use is key to global efforts to combat climate change and a focal point of the UN's COP28 climate talks, which start this week in Dubai.
Coal power makes up about 70% of emissions in China, which has committed to being carbon neutral by 2060. After 2025, it is unclear whether China will approve new coal plants.
In the third quarter of this year, however, China permitted more new coal plants than in all of 2021, according to Greenpeace, even as most countries have stopped building new coal-fired power and are phasing out plants.

"With energy security becoming a code word for coal in recent years, there is a clear-cut path to receive approval on building more new coal while you still can," Greenpeace project leader Gao Yuhe said.
Xu Mingjun, general manager of Shenhua Energy, China's largest coal company, told investors in September that the company was taking advantage of this window of opportunity to bolster coal development.
More than 95% of the global coal plant capacity that began construction this year was in China, according to U.S. think tank Global Energy Monitor (GEM).
China's renewed obsession with energy security follows a crippling domestic coal and power shortage in 2021, as well as a European energy crisis last year in the aftermath of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which sent prices of natural gas soaring.
Despite overseas pressure, China climate envoy Xie Zhenhua told diplomats in September that energy security concerns meant phasing out fossil fuels remained "unrealistic".
Researchers with the Development and Research Center, a think tank attached to China's cabinet, said in September that coal-fired power capacity could rise by more than 200 GW by the end of the decade - more than all the power capacity in Canada.

COAL NOW, COAL FOREVER?​

Once a stop on the ancient Silk Road, the Shaanxi province city of Yulin has pledged to cut the number of coal mines by 2025.
But like many cities in China's coal country, coal revenues and jobs are an incentive to keep building. Yulin's revenue jumped nearly 60% in 2022 on higher coal prices but dropped almost 20% annually in January-June 2023, according to Reuters calculations based on government data, highlighting the risks of coal reliance.
On the distant fringe of the city, another new coal power plant is rising from the sand on the edge of the vast Ordos Desert at the massive Jinjie Industrial Park - where rows of factories turn abundant coal reserves into oil and chemicals.
To be sure, China is seeking to mitigate the emissions impact of new coal plants, which Beijing says will eventually serve as backups to the massive amounts of renewable capacity being added to the grid.
The Yushen Yuheng plant replaces 702 MW of power from smaller, less-efficient plants, and its construction includes 60 MW of wind power, 260 MW of solar and 100,000 tons annually of carbon capture.
A 2022 regulation requires all new coal-fired plants to be built with the purpose of ensuring supply security and promoting new energy.

THE FUTURE​

Concerned about power shortages, China's state planner announced a capacity price mechanism that, beginning in January, will pay generators to have coal plants operational, regardless of whether they are used.
Although many analysts believe China's coal consumption could peak as soon as this year, Beijing has been reluctant to commit to a more ambitious target, saying it will phase down coal between 2026 and 2030.
Shaanxi Yulin Energy, developer of Yushen Yuheng, plans to invest another 6 billion yuan to build two more coal units for operation in 2027, government-backed newspaper Shaanxi Daily reported in August.
Several workers in Yulin expressed little doubt about whether new coal plants make economic and environmental sense.
"Underground resources will never run out," said a truck driver at the Jinjie Industrial Park surnamed Duan. "There will always be coal."
Reporting by Colleen Howe, Ella Cao in Yulin and David Stanway in Singapore; Editing by Tony Munroe and Gerry Doyle
 

spARTacus

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Well, one acknowledged impact of global warming and climate change is that it's going to create lots of friction globally and domestically in terms of differences of opinions or for responses, and if not managed correctly there is fairly high risk we are going to all kill ourselves through conflict and war and fighting over policy or resources or how/what policy or resources to use or not, even before we end up killing ourselves from the actual impact of the globe heating. So, none of this should really be a surprise. It should all be concerning, but not really surprising.
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Blah blah blah, the West destroys their economy, sells their soul to the devil, and China gets stronger and stronger. Nothing surprising here when world leaders do nothing but kiss ass.
 

Ph1llip

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Well, one acknowledged impact of global warming and climate change is that it's going to create lots of friction globally and domestically in terms of differences of opinions or for responses, and if not managed correctly there is fairly high risk we are going to all kill ourselves through conflict and war and fighting over policy or resources or how/what policy or resources to use or not, even before we end up killing ourselves from the actual impact of the globe heating. So, none of this should really be a surprise. It should all be concerning, but not really surprising.
Spartz, you can't have an impact for something that's made up. What you meant to say is that the ACTIONS taken because they believe in said made-up thing will cause "friction".

Amazing how because it's China, you use a relatively benign term like "friction". What would you call it if we were doing it to them? Bullying? Hegemony? Colonialism?

Please explain the "actual impact of the globe heating" :rolleyes:. How deeply do you believe this? And more importantly, do you live by your convictions? As in, live in a mud hut, use candles, don't have a car etc. 😆
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Spartz, you can't have an impact for something that's made up. What you meant to say is that the ACTIONS taken because they believe in said made-up thing will cause "friction".

Amazing how because it's China, you use a relatively benign term like "friction". What would you call it if we were doing it to them? Bullying? Hegemony? Colonialism?

Please explain the "actual impact of the globe heating" :rolleyes:. How deeply do you believe this? And more importantly, do you live by your convictions? As in, live in a mud hut, use candles, don't have a car etc. 😆
You forgot, crapping in a hole outdoors………lmao
 

spARTacus

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Spartz, you can't have an impact for something that's made up. What you meant to say is that the ACTIONS taken because they believe in said made-up thing will cause "friction".

Amazing how because it's China, you use a relatively benign term like "friction". What would you call it if we were doing it to them? Bullying? Hegemony? Colonialism?..
Call it whatever you want (friction, bullying, fighting, disagreeing, sabre-rattling, negotiating, pre-positioning, arguing). There will be lots of such regardless of what you call it, both internationally and domestically and irrelevant of this example Stein posted being about China.

No idea what you think if you think it is amazing how I used the word friction in relation to China, or if I have some sort of tolerance or viewpoints differently for China in comparison to the US or others, or for the internal "churn" (is that a better word to use in your opinion) in the US and in Canada and in lots of western democracies.
 

spARTacus

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...Please explain the "actual impact of the globe heating" :rolleyes:.
Given the rolling eyes, I assume the question is rhetorical.
How deeply do you believe this? And more importantly, do you live by your convictions? As in, live in a mud hut, use candles, don't have a car etc. 😆
I believe we are headed towards bad and we need to do something about it. I think the movement away from fossil fuels is a good direction. I will eventually get/use an EV when those become suitable for my needs/situation. Will I be willing to move out of my current semi-rural and free range ICE dominated lifestyle to more densified urban living (and I'm sure that may eventually be part of required solutions, maybe not for me but probably for my direct offspring) - yes. No one is yet suggesting we need to move into mud huts and return to the stone age. Pretty sure everyone knows that's not going to fly. Yes, I would be willing to not have a car. However, the approaches and solutions aren't going to work if it is left to individuals to make choice about individually having a car or not.
 
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Chuck Finley69

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Well, one acknowledged impact of global warming and climate change is that it's going to create lots of friction globally and domestically in terms of differences of opinions or for responses, and if not managed correctly there is fairly high risk we are going to all kill ourselves through conflict and war and fighting over policy or resources or how/what policy or resources to use or not, even before we end up killing ourselves from the actual impact of the globe heating. So, none of this should really be a surprise. It should all be concerning, but not really surprising.

Better to die free then live oppressed.
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Given the rolling eyes, I assume the question is rhetorical.

I believe we are headed towards bad and we need to do something about it. I think the movement away from fossil fuels is a good direction. I will eventually get/use an EV when those become suitable for my needs/situation. Will I be willing to move out of my current semi-rural and free range ICE dominated lifestyle to more densified urban living (and I'm sure that may eventually be part of required solutions, maybe not for me but probably for my direct offspring) - yes. No one is yet suggesting we need to move into mud huts and return to the stone age. Pretty sure everyone knows that's not going to fly. Yes, I would be willing to not have a car. However, the approaches and solutions aren't going to work if it is left to individuals to make choice about individually having a car or not.
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Guys why in gauge with him………he plays all sides than is hurt……than agrees with you………probably has a picture of Greta an Kerry over his bed……LMFAO
 

spARTacus

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Guys why in gauge with him………he plays all sides than is hurt……than agrees with you………probably has a picture of Greta an Kerry over his bed……LMFAO
Ha (another mention about Greta). I guess whatever works for you as engagement for trying to "hurt" me. While you're at it, maybe check the fuel gauge of your ICE.
 

SteinwayTransitCorp

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Chuck, let’s do lunch next week……….pick a long horn near you..I don’t mind driving I have no range anxiety just check the old gauge and poof 425 miles to go
 
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